Diesel POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello!,
Sorry for not posting in Spanish.. English and Dutch are the limit to my language abilities.
I've also got a my2001 Saab 9-3 TiD S Coupe and a my1992 Saab 9000 CD 2.3 Turbo Griffin.
The 9-3 is used by me most of the time, for both fun and business. I've modified it to produce around 160hp and 340NM of torque, this was through a Sports Exhaust, Performance Filter and Abbott Racing Motorsport Diesel Upgrade for the (new generation 125hp VVT Turbo) 2.2 TiD. It's also fitted with the Abbott Motorsport Viggen Rescue kit (Bushings, Steering Rack Clamp etc) and Eibach Springs and Koni Adjustable Dampers with Saab ALU28 17'' Wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport tyres.
You can read the review of the car at http://www.turboteameurope.com under DRIVEN or see the development of the car and costs under the same site under TECH, PROJECTS. You can also see the car being driven at Goodwood racing track, and at The Nurburgring under ENJOYMENT, DRIVING, TRACKDAYS.
A diesel can be fun!
My 9000 2.3 Turbo is lovely and quick, with the only modification done so far is the fitting of 16'' 3 spoke Aero wheels and Dunlop SP9000 tyres along with the Trent Saab Stage 2 Braking kit (Brembo Group N Grey Iron Discs) and Ferodo DS2500 Racing pads).. I'm thinking of increasing power to the car from 200hp up.. and am looking at a Speedparts Stage 2 upgrade (Exhaust, filter, DI/APC and Jetronic upgrade) with perhaps an Abbott Racing chassis upgrade (Springs, Koni Dampers etc..)
You can see the 9000 at http://www.turboteameurope.com under Gallery, 9000, Mark Anderson.
I've owned other Saabs in the past too.. I had a NA NG900 2.3 SE and a Classic 900 Turbo 2 door. Out of them all the diesel, feels the fastest.. but after upgrades I think the 9000 will be the quickest Saab i've owned
Keep on Saabing!
Sorry for not posting in Spanish.. English and Dutch are the limit to my language abilities.
I've also got a my2001 Saab 9-3 TiD S Coupe and a my1992 Saab 9000 CD 2.3 Turbo Griffin.
The 9-3 is used by me most of the time, for both fun and business. I've modified it to produce around 160hp and 340NM of torque, this was through a Sports Exhaust, Performance Filter and Abbott Racing Motorsport Diesel Upgrade for the (new generation 125hp VVT Turbo) 2.2 TiD. It's also fitted with the Abbott Motorsport Viggen Rescue kit (Bushings, Steering Rack Clamp etc) and Eibach Springs and Koni Adjustable Dampers with Saab ALU28 17'' Wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport tyres.
You can read the review of the car at http://www.turboteameurope.com under DRIVEN or see the development of the car and costs under the same site under TECH, PROJECTS. You can also see the car being driven at Goodwood racing track, and at The Nurburgring under ENJOYMENT, DRIVING, TRACKDAYS.
A diesel can be fun!
My 9000 2.3 Turbo is lovely and quick, with the only modification done so far is the fitting of 16'' 3 spoke Aero wheels and Dunlop SP9000 tyres along with the Trent Saab Stage 2 Braking kit (Brembo Group N Grey Iron Discs) and Ferodo DS2500 Racing pads).. I'm thinking of increasing power to the car from 200hp up.. and am looking at a Speedparts Stage 2 upgrade (Exhaust, filter, DI/APC and Jetronic upgrade) with perhaps an Abbott Racing chassis upgrade (Springs, Koni Dampers etc..)
You can see the 9000 at http://www.turboteameurope.com under Gallery, 9000, Mark Anderson.
I've owned other Saabs in the past too.. I had a NA NG900 2.3 SE and a Classic 900 Turbo 2 door. Out of them all the diesel, feels the fastest.. but after upgrades I think the 9000 will be the quickest Saab i've owned
Keep on Saabing!
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Anonymous
p.s. As far as how long the engine on the TiD will last?
Two things.. I use Shell Ultra Helix Diesel fully synthetic motor oil (i have done from new). And the car is main-dealer serviced on every scheduled service.
I had the upgrade fitted at 16,000 Kilometers once I had correctly run the engine in, and have now completed over 75,000 Kilometers with the car. I've not had one single problem with the engine.
The upgrade is from one the most well respected Saab tuners in the world (Abbott Racing).
I drive my cars fast (Autobahns) and enjoy driving fast (Track days). My fuel consumption on the Saab Information Display is always around 7.2Litres/100KM.
If you want to chip your 9-3 Diesel ONLY use good Saab tuners. Hirsch for the 115hp and Abbott for the 125hp and you will be fine.
I'm very active with my 9-3 and also with my 9000 2.3T... but have no problems with the idea that THEY CAN BE IMPROVED. The 9-3 was launched as a very poor handling car that NEEDS upgrading to be anywhere near as good as cars from Audi and BMW.
Two things.. I use Shell Ultra Helix Diesel fully synthetic motor oil (i have done from new). And the car is main-dealer serviced on every scheduled service.
I had the upgrade fitted at 16,000 Kilometers once I had correctly run the engine in, and have now completed over 75,000 Kilometers with the car. I've not had one single problem with the engine.
The upgrade is from one the most well respected Saab tuners in the world (Abbott Racing).
I drive my cars fast (Autobahns) and enjoy driving fast (Track days). My fuel consumption on the Saab Information Display is always around 7.2Litres/100KM.
If you want to chip your 9-3 Diesel ONLY use good Saab tuners. Hirsch for the 115hp and Abbott for the 125hp and you will be fine.
I'm very active with my 9-3 and also with my 9000 2.3T... but have no problems with the idea that THEY CAN BE IMPROVED. The 9-3 was launched as a very poor handling car that NEEDS upgrading to be anywhere near as good as cars from Audi and BMW.
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Alvaroruiz thinks that 17” for a 9-3 is too much.
Alvaroruiz 
thinks that 17” for a 9-3 is too much. That’s the reason why HUNTER is smiling. 
How many kilometres with the upgrading diesel kit?. Any problems?.
thinks that 17” for a 9-3 is too much. That’s the reason why HUNTER is smiling. How many kilometres with the upgrading diesel kit?. Any problems?.
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Anonymous
This is my car. And me driving it!
17'' Wheels (p.s. My wheels are Saab wheels - ALU28 to be exact
-- I have 16'' Aeros on my 9000 2.3 T.. does that count? 
)17'' wheels with 225 tyres are very useful when you fix the 9-3's terrible suspension for good corning
I've completed 59,000 KM with the Diesel Upgrade. I've had no problems whatsoever.
(I've been following the conversation in babelfish
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Anonymous
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i´ve always thought that 17" for a car like yours is appropiate; i have the probleme when i try that my club feelow sufferer understand it. i think is wonderful you know to get all efficiency of your "machine" in a circuit.your my idol.......jejejejejejejejeje..........
it is difficult for me to write in english........but with a dictionary i can do wonderful things.
saabludos from spain.
y hacer el favor de dejar mi neurona tranquila un rato con el ingles..... .
it is difficult for me to write in english........but with a dictionary i can do wonderful things.
saabludos from spain.
y hacer el favor de dejar mi neurona tranquila un rato con el ingles.....
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Mark it is forbidden to insert pictures in original format.
Mark it is "forbidden" to insert pictures in original format. The right thing is to insert a zip. Ok?. Don’t worry you didn’t know.
No está mal del todo Hunter. No dejas de sorprenderme.
No está mal del todo Hunter. No dejas de sorprenderme.
Última edición por C a r l o s el Lun Ene 06, 2003 11:35 am, editado 1 vez en total.
hi mark!!! welcome to our club...
About the picture, it's only to do more fast the forum and reduce the space needed.
Jeejeje nice alu wheels, the 2000 9-5 Aero wheels, i saw your car in the nurbugring picture some time ago.
Alvaro... donde puñetas esta el tema en el que habeis participado?? es que quiero reirme un poco,jejejeje
Bye
About the picture, it's only to do more fast the forum and reduce the space needed.
Jeejeje nice alu wheels, the 2000 9-5 Aero wheels, i saw your car in the nurbugring picture some time ago.
Alvaro... donde puñetas esta el tema en el que habeis participado?? es que quiero reirme un poco,jejejeje
Bye
'95 Saab 9000 CSE 3.0 V6 auto
Saab 9-3SS 2.0t Vector(Maptun Stage7, Forge Intercooler, Ferrita Downpipe, Aero chasis, AP Racing Brakes 330mm, Black Diamond back, SPEC Stage2+ clutch, front strut y volante deportivo Maptun)
Saab 900 turbo convertible 1992
Saab 9-3SS 2.0t Vector(Maptun Stage7, Forge Intercooler, Ferrita Downpipe, Aero chasis, AP Racing Brakes 330mm, Black Diamond back, SPEC Stage2+ clutch, front strut y volante deportivo Maptun)
Saab 900 turbo convertible 1992
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Hello
Hi Mark, welcome to our Club.
First of all, you should not believe anything from Hunter, he is always joking . I´m not against 17" alloy wheels for a car like YOURS, but for a standard 115 hp TiD 
. I've always said that if you want to improve a car's engine, you should also improve the rest of the car, that's to say, brakes, suspension, wheels, etc. In Spain there's a lot of people who only put a cheap ECU upgrade in the car and doesn't modify anything else, with the result of a very dangerous vehicle (a vehicle with chassis, brakes, suspension... designed for 100 hp but with 150 hp or more ). And there´s also another group of people who waste their money putting enormous alloy wheels (17 or even 18") in a standard car because they think they're going to improve it, when the only thing they get is an uncomfortable behaviour and a "nervous" steering wheel 
. "If you modify a car, modify it well, but please don't do such stupid things" I'm always saying it to this kind of guys, but they must be deaf 
Recently I put here a post asking for improving the brakes and suspension of my 9000, and Hunter said I should equip it with 17" wheels and 225 tires . "OK" I answered, "but I think the first thing I have to do is install a sport kit and powerful brakes". This was the beginning of the argue 
When I told diesel aren't for a sport way of driving I wasn't talking about motorways, but about "spin" roads in which you have to use the gearbox very very frequently, and everyone knows this is not very good for a diesel. In you drive fast in motorways or godd roads, there's no problem for a standard diesel (needless to say yours isn't precisely standard 
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Enjoy your cars!!!
First of all, you should not believe anything from Hunter, he is always joking
. I´m not against 17" alloy wheels for a car like YOURS, but for a standard 115 hp TiD . I've always said that if you want to improve a car's engine, you should also improve the rest of the car, that's to say, brakes, suspension, wheels, etc. In Spain there's a lot of people who only put a cheap ECU upgrade in the car and doesn't modify anything else, with the result of a very dangerous vehicle (a vehicle with chassis, brakes, suspension... designed for 100 hp but with 150 hp or more ). And there´s also another group of people who waste their money putting enormous alloy wheels (17 or even 18") in a standard car because they think they're going to improve it, when the only thing they get is an uncomfortable behaviour and a "nervous" steering wheel . "If you modify a car, modify it well, but please don't do such stupid things" I'm always saying it to this kind of guys, but they must be deaf Recently I put here a post asking for improving the brakes and suspension of my 9000, and Hunter said I should equip it with 17" wheels and 225 tires
. "OK" I answered, "but I think the first thing I have to do is install a sport kit and powerful brakes". This was the beginning of the argue When I told diesel aren't for a sport way of driving I wasn't talking about motorways, but about "spin" roads in which you have to use the gearbox very very frequently, and everyone knows this is not very good for a diesel. In you drive fast in motorways or godd roads, there's no problem for a standard diesel (needless to say yours isn't precisely standard
)Enjoy your cars!!!
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Anonymous
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muy bonito..........un 9-3 diesel con 160 caballos puede montar unas R17..........y un 9000 gasolina con unos 220 caballos no puede pasar de unas R16?????..........uyuyuyuyuy.........cuanto pelota sueltoooooo..... ........
por esa regla de 3.......si al 9-3 le metemos el motor del 9000.......como diria carlitos:le montamos unas R20 con neumaticos 255.
saabludos en español.
........por esa regla de 3.......si al 9-3 le metemos el motor del 9000.......como diria carlitos:le montamos unas R20 con neumaticos 255.
saabludos en español.
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And Mark, what about fuel consumption and oil burning with
And Mark, what about fuel consumption and oil burning with this upgrading?. It is too much higher now ?. Maybe the same?. 
I am frightened thinking about Vila inside your car and driving it. Uffffff too much for my imagination.
Hunter, repeat after me: “Il italiano e moltto faccile e divertente”. Who knows may be some Italian could be the next one …
How much did the upgrade kit cost to you?.
Regards.
I am frightened thinking about Vila inside your car and driving it. Uffffff too much for my imagination.
Hunter, repeat after me: “Il italiano e moltto faccile e divertente”. Who knows may be some Italian could be the next one …
How much did the upgrade kit cost to you?.
Regards.
Última edición por C a r l o s el Lun Ene 06, 2003 9:23 pm, editado 1 vez en total.